A common complaint of PE investors is that valuations are a challenge. An old friend and experienced PE investor, Rajesh Khanna, once commented that valuations will always be a challenge; in his career he never did a deal where they believe they got a “cheap” price. This is why I have picked valuation mismatches as my first blog topic. And I am talking only about minority or majority investment deals where the entrepreneur continues to run the business; buy-out deals involve different deal dynamics.
I remember the post-midnight negotiations on our first infrastructure investment way back in 2003. The only comfort we got from that painful experience was that if this is the way they negotiated with us, we can be sure that they will work as hard when negotiating deals with other counterparties and our money is, therefore, safe with them. Let’s face it—if you came out of a discussion saying, “We got a sweet deal!” you should be worried because either (a) your new entrepreneur-partner is a poor negotiator, or (b) your new entrepreneur-partner has no interest in honouring your shareholder agreement. Investors want to invest in companies who can subsequently look after their interest by negotiating hard with others.
So much for trashing PE investors. But entrepreneurs are also to blame. Inebriated by the wealth creation that took place a few years back and excited by overenthusiastic investment bankers they believe that their companies are worth a lot more than what others think. As a result, they don’t want to sell “cheap” and wait like a crouching tiger for a sucker investor to walk in. And in many cases one walks in through the door. Hence deals take long to complete, if at all.
I think investors and entrepreneurs need to take a break and visit their neighbourhood market. Watch how women bargain with the vendor. And I am being deliberately sexist—my wife says I am useless at bargaining. The fruit seller knows that the woman wants to buy the apples and she knows that he has to get rid of his stock before it gets spoilt. They also have an idea of where the market price is. So the fun begins. A deal finally gets closed and both sides walk away happy with the outcome (at the same time grumbling loudly about the unfair price). And she will be back next week to buy from the same guy and the same process will be repeated. Our son learnt the same lesson recently on a school trip to Beijing—a simple lesson in price discovery after being thrown out of a few shops where their first bid was 10 percent of the offer price (they got so excited with their bargaining skills that they finally even tried to negotiate price at a KFC outlet and were told emphatically to “Get out!”).
So why do highly-educated PE investors find it so difficult to close deals? Is it because predator entrepreneurs know that there will always be a new victim waiting to get ensnared? Don’t entrepreneurs also know that high valuations lead to unnecessary pressure on meeting ridiculously exaggerated targets? I have recently been involved in discussions where investors are legally able to seize control of a company because targets have not been met.
It doesn’t make sense for investors to get a “cheap” deal or for entrepreneurs to con investors into paying too high a price. If this happens there is no true partnership and as the comedian Russell Peters said, “Somebody gonna get a hurt real bad”. India is a high-growth economy, irrespective of what foreign investors say and what the government does or does not do. And in a high growth economy it is even more difficult to predict future prices, volumes, competition, etc. So, if there is a serious valuation mismatch one has to look at structures to bridge the gap–if the entrepreneur wants too high a valuation, a structure can be worked out where if targets are not met, the investor’s shareholding in the company ratchets up.
Alternatively, and this is a framework that I prefer, the entrepreneur can agree on a lower valuation and earn out a higher shareholding based on meeting pre-set targets. The reason why I prefer this option is that it causes less stress on the company to meet tough targets (sometimes caused by external factors, like the 2008 global financial crisis). I have seen enough companies in recent times whose souls have been destroyed because the entrepreneurs are cutting corners to meet the high targets they set themselves up for when they closed their PE round at a high valuation. Entrepreneurs fail to realise that they can destroy their company or their relationship with an investor if they push for too high a valuation. If properly structured, they will end up with the same or higher shareholding if they meet their targets. And this is where investment bankers need to nudge both sides to close a “fair” deal. No one will grudge the other side if they both believe they have a “fair” deal.
So it is time that investors and entrepreneurs visited their neighbourhood market to learn the fine art of price discovery and closure.
Luis Miranda I look forward to having an online discussion on these issues – so please write in with your comments (it would also help me convince the folks at Forbes India that someone is actually interested in what I write!) I spent over a decade in the private equity industry and enjoyed the excitement of working with great colleagues and partnering exceptionally brilliant entrepreneurs to build India’s infrastructure. We had a great ride, but sometimes we got it wrong! I am now experimenting to see how we can transfer the lessons I learnt, and did not learn, in the for-profit world to the incredibly passionate and brilliant social entrepreneurs I now hang out with; the aim is to build sustainable organisations without destroying the soul of their NGOs.
Dear Luis,
Although I can think of examples where the first approach has been applied, it would be great if you could share examples of the second approach, if you have seen implemented - i.e. low valuation, but increase shareholding if targets are exceeded.
Dear Luis I am a superannuated employee who worked in pvt large corporate houses of North India. I am associated with an NGO whose objective is to “Help underprivileged children become financially independent by providing them quality education and skills."It is started by a corporate executive retired from Ranbaxy, around Gurgaon from his savings.After reading article in 14th Aug issue of Economic Times, I am encouraged to write to you on this subject.
I seek your expert advice and help to l make this NGO as sustainable organization.I look forward to hear from you to send you complete details.
Kind Regards
Ashok Arora
Hi Luis,
After reading your blog am waiting for next one....it was pleasure to read ....and gives me courage to come back to my NGO field which i always like.
I had anticipated a very number heavy article but this was totally the opposite. Louis, since you have an experience in what you are talking about please also do share examples and sample numbers in such articles. The understanding becomes much better.
Would wait to read investments in Social sector. Actually that is the first sector that comes to mind where the entrepreneurs are not mindlessly asking for higher valuations and continue to create value and deliver results because of their passion.
A so called "structured deal" might be the key to the PE & VC space in case of structured, stable and highly earning businesses. However if we are talking about potential high earning businesses, it is truly relative, especially in Indian markets where we have a handful investors who want to rationally earn money. Else every investor is trying to make their earnings only high in whatsoever manner.
In my observation, the Indian entrepreneurs do not grow up with ease. Lack of sufficient finance (without cost on capital) is the back breaker. And then comes in the rigorous hard work to save their entrepreneurial dream. Just, on the peak of struggle or at the sink bottom, comes up an angel investor where for obvious reasons entrepreneurs cannot bring win-win situation to the table. Survival becomes the priority and the rat race mostly continues.
This will continue to exist unless the number of investors rise higher in the demand - supply chain of entrepreneurs - investors.
A lot of entrepreneurs let their dreams die for not having the silver they wanted, to survive their business. No question of getting at the top and thus no competitive entrepreneurship exist. Why else China be called a producer and not us?
Thanks Luis for the noble cause. All the best and keep your hobby young !
A chance surfing and a landing at your blog! I think what you rightly mentioned is the fair way of getting valuations deal and don. But unfortunately everyone comes with the mindset of taking the most out of the deal as quickly. Hoping to see more of your comments
I agree Luis, 'right price' is not the 'best price' for any party. But I am not a big fan of structured deals. It might work in case of big dose funding by PEs into some large stable companies but uncertainties are too many for such deal in VC space.
Good one. Hope to read few more from you here at Forbes. Wishing you success in your new endeavour of writing and working with social enterprises.
Great piece of writing and wonderful advice.
The fault lies in the "get rich quick" mentality of the entrepreneur and the cover maximum risk approach of the foreign investors. A major part of the solution to the Indian development projects would be funding them by Indian PEs (not imported capital) where you take the exchange risk out of the equation.
Please keep writing and sharing your wisdom!
Luis, One should not forget the other side has got smart professionals engaged in the deal,hence untill and unless its a win-win situation,its not going to work out (unless its say distress selling). It was indeed a pleasure to have ur views and insights regularly
Luis! I think the problem lies in that we have about 400 PE deals in India only for about 400 registered funds (almost 80-100 active funds). To top it, India is also highly intermediated.
The summary lesson from my investing (which is only since 2007) is that *most* primary issuances, whether in the private or the public market, happen when the issuer / seller knows that he gets a price a tad above fair value.
The trick therefore is in looking for secondaries. Indeed some of the most well regarded names in the PE business are therefore focussing more on secondaries - often in a passive role (which makes 2:20 a hard-to-justify proposition) but still concentrated.
I also wonder whether the solution that you suggest - of an earn-out deal structure, resolves or compounds the problem. Is it not the case that such a structure would put parties again on a negotiating table after the performance? And would the problem of misaligned incentives not be greater than the problem of egregious entry valuations?
The bigger challenge for investors is to get the quality filter in place, a test on which while jury may still be out, the record of the PE investors as a whole, is perhaps only mixed. No?
Anshuman, the problem is that everyone chases the same deals and nearly all PE funds claim to have proprietary deal access. And of course everyone's performance is in the top quartile. Not many try to do stuff against the herd. We started investing in Indian infra when no one was interested. In both our first deals we had no competition since no one was willing to touch those companies. They ended up being our best deals ever. Deals all over the world get intermediated and there are more funds elsewhere. Unless investors show they have balls they don't deserve the 2/20 and carry.
This is a great piece. In fact it is so relevant to me as I am pre-reading my cases for the course at Harvard Business School's Launching New Ventures in India. The key here is what you mentioned the "fair deal". Both the entrepreneur and investor need to see the relationship as long term and its possible only both the parties realise that things can go wrong in the future and its better to err on the side of caution. Thank you and look forward to more insights.
Luis, its a good start for your blog. I remember the comment you made after our negotiating our first deal "if they negotiate so hard, our money will be safe with them". It was. In your example, in the neighbourhood market negotiations many a times, there will be seasonal impact on the price discovery. With our entrepreneurs, irrespective of where the public market is, they always look for that "extra". They seems to have taken it to their heart Pepsi's campaign "Yeh Dil Maange More"!!!
If I remember correctly, in our first deals we were happy with the price, but felt we had left money on the table for the entrepreneur. We were fine with that and we both made money. But if we had tried to squeeze the last drop out of the deal, we would have not done them.
Luis, very well written and so true. As a lawyer, I see so many deals which we consider legally doomed come alive and flourish long term because of the fair pricing and the "win-win" approach adopted by both parties. There are also fewer conflicts at a later stage where both parties are of the view that they had a fair deal at the outset. Hope to read more of your writings and get the insights of a veteran investor.
Thanks for all your posts. I guess this should convince the guys at Forbes! And your inputs have given me good ideas for future blogs. I will be writing this once a month.
Luis, You summed it up so right. Ultimately being FAIR in the process is the key to make it a win-win for all stakeholders. Best brains, expert advice, complex valuations cannot help if parties involved don’t pass the fairness test. Our neighborhood fruit seller passes this test everyday and so does the Home-Ministry in giving him a fair price. Therefore both co-exist.
Hi Luis,
can only echo your comments, we have been through the process and valuation (pricing) is extremely important. I would like to rope in Bankers along with Entrepreneurs - Bankers should guide the valuations as they visit the market place daily and take the Entrepreneur through the process, cause this neighbourhood market (read valuations and investor appetite) which Banker visits daily is unknown to Entrepreneurs. Getting the maximum out of deal is not a win - win. there should always be something left for the other party to gain - and that is also the issue with valuation.
Thanks. While price is important, what is also key is leaving something on the table ... Otherwise in the long term investors won't be happy. I learnt this lesson way back in 1995 from Deepak Parekh when we took HDFC Bank public.
Luis - Great start on the blog and great first topic to take up given the situation around high valuations we are in. While part of the valuations craziness is driven by who's chasing more given the state of business cycles, I feel the investors play a huge role in fueling the fire. I've wondered why do investors feel compelled that they have to win a deal, no matter what. Maybe there are only a handful of great deals and everybody has to get and the bidding war ensues which obviously drives up the price but I feel the investors have got to have the willingness to walk away from a price that simply doesn't make sense.
We saw how the valuations of the five tech stars that recently IPO'd in the past 6 months scaled back when they hit the public markets (Groupon, LinkedIn, Pandora, Zynga & Facebook). All of them were in super-crazy valuation mode when these companies were in private investors & secondary market domain. Public markets have responded drastically different to their valuations and brought down, 20-30 & even 50% down from their IPO highs. In their case, the late stage guys and even public investors who got in at IPO and kept holding, are now holding the bag. They all got to this point because everyone wanted into these deals and they all did by paying more. I recently did what you suggested in the alternative. Not a private equity deal but a seed stage investment where I'm noticing similar behaviour i.e the entrepreneurs want to get ahead of themselves. Infact, I walked away and refused to invest at a valuation I didn't think the startup had during that particular time/stage of the company. The entrepreneur kept citing example of how other seed-stage investor would love to put in at the price & share they thought should be. First of all, it's incredibly hard to come up with a sensible valuation for a seed stage company but even in such circumstances, we can put milestones and probability of success (akin to discount rate) in hitting those which should help drive to a certain number rather than relying on empty promises. Sure that startup can become the next Instagram but my point to him was that the reality is that it isn't at this time. We disagreed on the outlook and I wished him all the best but I didn't just walk away. I clearly showed him the risks and factors that will play a role in his startup's path going forward and why I thought he needed to prove certain key metrics before we both start dreaming of becoming the next $1Bln company. Am sure, bigger and well-known private-equity investors can't afford to do that (walk-away) but something they should think about.
Unfortunately it is difficult walking away fom a deal because of price. You recently did so, and I am sure that it wasn't easy. I have had my fair share of overpriced deals.
Luis, I agree that valuations are an issue. However, the search for right valuation is as elusive as the search for the holy grail. I am not even sure if there is any such thing as the right valuation. In the end, if companies do well, you make money and entry valuations do not matter much. On the other hand, the performance strutters, regardless of the entry valuation there is a problem. The real issue is that most enterpreneurs have misplaced notions on what they can achieve. Most of the so called educated-PE guys have also not shown great savviness in assessing the potential of the business. And here in lies the real reason in unrealized expectations.
If only life was so simple. That's why LPs pay us a 2/20! To search for the Holy Grail! Discipline is so difficult to demonstrate in the heat of the deal, especially as one gets more wedded to the story. Been there and suffered.
Good start Luis. hope to see many more in the times to come. I guess, it all gets difficult when there is too much money chasing few quality entrepreneurs. It takes two hands to clap and I guess, the investors are doing their bit. Entrepreneurs also are aware that Investors are chasing deals wanting their money to be put to work fast. Invariably, in such situations, the Investor compromises valuation and / or management quality. This is just the beginning. Hope to be part of this action.
Luis, Agree with your article and hopefully the current stock market situation and Facebook IPO will drill some sense to both entrepreneurs and investors who focus on the short-term rather than the long-term. There are very few sincere entrepreneurs who are in it for the long term. In addition, with there being so much news about businesses getting unrealisticlly high valuations most entrepreneurs expect the same for their business. Hopefully, we will see some sense prevailing in the market. On a separate note it would be nice if you could cover what are some of the ways to achieve a fair valuation based on your experience.
Unfortunately investors have short memories ... And they will be back again to overpay. It is difficult to figure out what is a fair price upfront; it is easy to do so post facto. But discipline helps in determining whether or not you got a fair price. In case one can't agree on a straight equity price, I always prefer investing at a lower price and sharing the upside with the entrepreneur instead of paying a high price and trying to clawback a higher share when there is underperformance - always a difficult discussion with the entrepreneur.
Excellent thoughts, Luis. The 'fair deal' is the key. And got to have the right intent and sense of partnership on both sides to navigate a sensibly calibrated pricing. Great blog, keep them coming.
Great post! I am a newbie here. Isn’t valuation supposed to be tricky? At best it provides a floor and a ceiling. While the deal may not be cheap, it will still be a good deal if the risk of this deal incrementing your loss ratio is minimal. Especially with buy-outs, bigger management rollover and larger option pool should keep the good going.
Yes, valuation is tricky. Before going into a negotiation, one should work out a price range based on various parameters like DCF, listed comparables, etc. And then have the discipline to walk if the price is out of that range.
Nice read, but few things remain un-addressed from an entrepreneur viewpoint. How does an entrepreneur derive a fair valuation for his enterprise, especially a service provider. For instance, I am a service provider of digital services and have not tangible asset (rental property). How can merely revenue value your enterprise? That too for a start-up with less than a million dollar revenue
Valuation is not easy ... But I have come across a host of entrepreneurs who have continuously chased higher valuations and often got an inappropriate investor on board just because they paid the highest price. Unfortunately the PE industry hasn't been fully successful in convincing entrepreneurs about their value-add and are seen as only a supplier of cash.
Great blog, Luis. I liked your observation on the possibility that some entrepreneurs might start cutting corners in order to reach the almost impossible targets in order to justify the valuation. I shudder to think what the folks at Facebook might do over the coming years with the data of users to increase revenues.....
Me thought that negotiations in the business world weren't as sensible as described in your blog, and that and both parties were trying to leg over each other!!
More seriously, a generic question I have continued to grapple with, is how do you seggregate the contribution by an individual or a team (say one of your investee companies) from market circumstances. So how much is a traders profit because the markets were up (and he is generally a long investor as a bond portfolio manager would be); how good is an investments advisors advice (is he looking good because markets went up or is he bad just because markets went down); and how good is an entrepreneurs team (is it that they just happened to be in the right place at the right time, was their success because of the market, and what would you say about a great team which did not deliver the results).
Benchmarks, of course, help answer these question - but only to some extent.
So one seems to fall back on the old adage that - nothing succeeds like success. There aren't many good trades which lost money; and there aren't that may bad trades which made money.
I hope that you'll get into some serious valuation issues in some of these pieces, and also disclose the dark things that some entrepreneurs are up to.
For example, does the country really have a great deal in terms of the value we have got for our airports?? My hunch is that in the PPP's (Public Private Pirateships!!), in aiports for example, are a cosy rip off. I would be very interested in a proper evaluation of what has been delivered to Indians, though my guess is that we have got airports which are of a poor quality and much more expensive than they should have been. But i am sure that you know better.
Cheers and lets have lunch on my next visit to Mumbai.
Arvind
Arvind, what PE investors don't normally talk about is that we make most money when we invest at market lows. The challenge is whether the fund outperformed the market index to justify the 2/20. On airports I have a contrarian view; maybe I am defensive because I was involved with some of them. Firstly, running a PPP in India is tough because the government partner is invariably an unwilling partner at the table and highly uncooperative at times. That's one of the reasons why costs go through the roof. Secondly, we love to criticise ourselves. The Delhi Airport recently won the global award for the seond best airport in the world in its size, after Seoul. Overall it was ranked 6th. 5 years back it was not in the top 100. Hyderabad was ranked 1st in the world in its size a couple of years back; it has slipped since then. So on service quality the data shows that there has been incredible improvement. And you should try the Dlhi airport express - I was nut involved with that. It's incredible. 45 minutes in rush hour by metro from Old Delhi to T3 with one train change at CP. and this was a PPP. See you in Mumbai.
Luis, congrats on your 1st Blog. You have always been straight forward and in the corporate world, there are very limited people, who speak what they actually believe or think. I totally agree - in my opinion there is nothing like a "cheap deal". If someone says they got a cheap deal, it means the product was not of good quality or they were no other buyers who were interested for it. Regarding relationship between entrepreneurs and investors - i think its got to be like a marriage - there has to be give and take. No body wins. Both do well as they go along. Hence, If entrepreneurs want good valuations then they should meet targets (set by themselves to justify the valuation) and if they dont then they must accept reality and let the investors have a say.
Luis, Excellent blog. I am not a great fan of structured deals. Reason is that the investor and the entrepreneur are not on the same page. It also per-supposes that the investor has no role to play in the subsequent value-add. I have always preferred a straight forward, simple deal where at the outset of the relationship, both the investor and the entrepreneur are on the same page. These deals may take a longer timeframe to conclude but in my experience, are more pleasant experiences of joint value creation going forward.
Dear Luis,
Congrats on ur 1st blog, n thanks for sharing your thoughts. As usual, your candid n fair views with grounding to the realities is a treat to read. I cherish happy memories of your 1st deal as well (mine as well fm other side xD).
Yes, to a great extent, both investors n entrepreneurs need to be practically wise n resist the temptation of squeezing that extra buck. Recently, I saw a fellow entrepreneur walking out of a deal when investor went back on agree principles of valuation and sharing upsides on delivery of milestones exactly as suggested by you.
Happy to be a part of discussion group n look fwd to reading more from ur blog. Cheers. Shirish
Screw the applewallah. Beat him down to cost price. Who cares about his working conditions, long hours, competition with foreign apples, damn he shouldn't have had so many kids. Good analogy Mr.Miranda, but isn't the rule with investing always maximum returns for minimum investment? Otherwise which idiot would bother investing right? I totally agree with the 'fairness' you propose, although it's not a term many investors are comfortable with. So yes, it is time that investors and entrepreneurs visited their neighbourhood market to learn the fine art of price discovery and closure, and maybe also develop a conscience along the way.
What aggression! Unfortunately striving to maximise returns often leads to unintended consequences like the 2008 crisis. A balance is needed ... But hunting for that balance is so much more difficult than trying to negotiate a fair price on a deal...
Luis,
Commendation for selection a fantastic topic. I think that one way to protect the investor, not the entrepreneur, would be to negotiate a deal requirement that part of the proceeds from the deal be put in escrow. This would be over and above the earn-out amount because:
1. The earn-out would come from the successful value creation by the business so no problem there if the entrepreneur decides to slack off.
2. The real reason would be to ensure that in case the entrepreneur decides to slack off, amounts in escrow remain in play without disappearing into thin air, thereby, rendering them incollectible.
Litigation can be an effective tool, but it is frequently an expensive one that continues to erode the investor's (or business') valued resource: Cash.
I had one case recently where a proper due diligence would have uncovered the need for an additional 505 cash infusion post closing. Upon commencement of litigation, the final settlement was:
1. Seller walks away from the business,
2. Pays $300K
3. Forgives the debt he held on the business.
In short, the buyers spent money on attorneys, financial experts (us), and did not get anything back (well, $300K) of the total investment made in the company.
It was sad to see them fork over that excess capital just to continue operating the business.
Chetan
Ha! Thanks for laying it out so simply Luis!
Got a note from a friend who I have been convincing that she can invest - "Is it really this basic?"
Oddly, it is. Sadly, it does not happen 99% of the time
Look forward to reading more, blog on!
Great article, Luis. I think what complicates the matter further in India is the availability of a few "investor-ready" deals, and presence of many PE funds. More money chasing few deals also results in high valuations.
Thanks for sharing the insights
Luis, as usual you have brought out very succintly that in every negotiation a 'win-win' strategy is better than a 'win-loose' in the long term. I liked the vegetable vendor analogy......I guess my only chance to bargain is if I go vegetable shopping post 8 pm and convince the guy that it is better to give me his stuff at a discount than throw it away the next day!!
Can't really disagree with any of what you say, except some questionable bargaining lessons at the kitchen table esp. if junior was out bargaining at the KFC. Kind of reminds me of the character in Anurag Mathur's 'Inscrutable Americans'.
Why would anyone argue against a fair deal? The real skill is in trying to ensure that both sides are convinced that they have a fair deal on the table. I am not a savvy PE guy, but I wonder if there could be built in triggers / milestones that allow the entrepreneur getting higher divestment? Given the definitional aspect of PE and lack of any price discovery other than theoretical models extrapolated into comparatives by industry or product, there really is not much to go by.
Oh and I will def try to read whatever you put out here and I am interested to know what you're up in the NGO space
The negotiation sweet spot and willingness to give more leeway also depends on what the investor brings to the table for the entrepreneur besides money and targets. If the entrepreneur were to see the certitude of his assumptions behind the growth of his/her baby increasing because of association with a certain set of investors - I would assume it won't be as much of a crouching tiger, hidden dragon style of approaching the discussion.
Loved the article and the colorful references. Keep writing please.
Yeah, the vegetable market analogy is really important here! In fact apart from PE, other investments and negotiations must learn from there as well. I just sometimes wish that everything were not just about the money but doing great work, which is where loads of entrepreneurs are taking short-cuts! Awesome job with telling that, Luis :)
Let's not totally trash the capitalists ... I believe that capitalism fuels innovation and wealth creation ... But, yes, there is more to life than just getting the highest or lowest valuation.
It is tough to agree on valuations. Entrepreneurs are often genuinely great optimists.
I must visit a vegetable market to get a refresher on how it is done.
That explains why the vendors at Pali Market were all looking dazed this evening ... Entrepreneurs need to be optimists ... Problems arise when they become unrealistic. Just like when investors also get unrealistic.
This is very sagacios counsel possibly valid not just for PE deal makers but for all negotiators and diplomats.
the proposal at the last para is innovative and incentive-compatible
Luis,Bravo !
vijay kelkar
Thanks ... I hear that fruit sellers at Pali Market are going crazy with PE investors trying to negotiate the price for a dozen mangoes. The sellers are trying to understand what ratchets and clawbacks mean.
Luis Miranda started investing in India's infrastructure before it became fashionable. He started IDFC Private Equity and was earlier a part of the start-up team of HDFC Bank.
Luis has invested in and has been on the boards of companies like GMR Infrastructure, Delhi International Airport, Gujarat Pipavav Port, Gujarat State Petronet, L&T Infrastructure and Manipal Global Education.
Today he is involved with various non-profits like Centre for Civil Society, SNEHA, Human Rights Watch, Gateway House and Samhita Social Ventures. Luis graduated with an MBA from Chicago Booth.
Dear Luis,
Although I can think of examples where the first approach has been applied, it would be great if you could share examples of the second approach, if you have seen implemented - i.e. low valuation, but increase shareholding if targets are exceeded.
Dear Luis I am a superannuated employee who worked in pvt large corporate houses of North India. I am associated with an NGO whose objective is to “Help underprivileged children become financially independent by providing them quality education and skills."It is started by a corporate executive r...
Hi Luis,
After reading your blog am waiting for next one....it was pleasure to read ....and gives me courage to come back to my NGO field which i always like.
Dear Luis,
Although I can think of examples where the first approach has been applied, it would be great if you could share examples of the second approach, if you have seen implemented - i.e. low valuation, but increase shareholding if targets are exceeded.
Dear Luis I am a superannuated employee who worked in pvt large corporate houses of North India. I am associated with an NGO whose objective is to “Help underprivileged children become financially independent by providing them quality education and skills."It is started by a corporate executive retired from Ranbaxy, around Gurgaon from his savings.After reading article in 14th Aug issue of Economic Times, I am encouraged to write to you on this subject.
I seek your expert advice and help to l make this NGO as sustainable organization.I look forward to hear from you to send you complete details.
Kind Regards
Ashok Arora
Hi Luis,
After reading your blog am waiting for next one....it was pleasure to read ....and gives me courage to come back to my NGO field which i always like.